Suspect Shared Power Suspect 2 - Psychic Surge

[KaenSoul]

Psychic Surge Suspect Test

WHY:
Psychic Surge has been one of the most popular abilities in the tier for years now, is quite similar to some already restricted abilities, Armor Tail, Queenly Majesty and Dazzling, as being protected from all forms of priority is key to enable some forms of HO, mainly those with very fast cleaners and wall breakers like Regieleki and Spectrier, so they can steamroll opposite teams without fear of most revengekillers. And it is not just that, as it also increases the damage they deal with Psychic-Type moves, and thanks to DLC a lot of Pokémon gained access to Expanding Force, as a new STAB option to spam under Psychic Terrain.

You may be wondering why it wasn't restricted with the other anti priority abilities, and that's because they don't work the same way, as unlike the others, you are under a timer with Psychic Surge, after a certain number of turns you will be forced to switch out to be able to reactivate the terrain, and have to be careful with opposite terrains, mainly electric and grassy, as Quark Drive Pokémon can be faster than yours, and switching into Grassy Glide can be quite painful for your frail sweepers and unlike other priority moves it doesn't get fully negated by Psychic Terrain.

How (Suspect Details):
During a Suspect test, each player must climb the ladder until they've acquired the GXE necessary to participate in the voting. Primarily, everyone that participates needs to make an alt account following these guidelines:

• Every game must be played on the official Pokemon Showdown! site and on a new account (creation date no earlier than today, Wednesday, January 3rd) with "SPPS "--for example, I could create one called "SPPS Mob" to ladder with. Having the prefix at the beginning of your alt name is mandatory, AKA not in the middle (e.g. PSP PS) and not at the end (e.g. Sony SPPS).
• To qualify for voting, your alt must meet the required GXE and games played threshold; it starts at 78% GXE at 25 games, down to 75% GXE at 40+ games.
  
  Table of Reqs

  
• Psychic Surge will be allowed on the ladder during the suspect.​
• The suspect test will end on Wednesday, January 17th at 11:00pm GMT -3
• When posting proof of meeting reqs, feel free to use this thread as a means to disseminate topical opinions regarding whether or not Psychic Surge should be restricted (Optional).
• It is mandatory to provide proof of ownership of the alt account as well. (Post a picture of your reqs with your smogon name featured)

With that all of that being said, it's suspect time! As usual, the actual voting will take place in the Blind Voting Forum, so posting anything other than proof of reqs and discussion isn't necessary.

 

[Bobsican]

Confirming as SPPS howdown

Used stall as usual, so Psychic Surge teams were just easy matchups for me TBH, will wait and see what others think on it before solidifying my vote.

 

[Demon Queen]

do not open

I also used stall so I don't have any strong opinions either way
https://pokepast.es/5250853582e5b26a
Just took that one sample team and slapped on Quag instead of Dozo lmao

 

[KaenSoul]

Ended up using stall (the same as the previous user) after the team I was trying to use failed me near the end of the previous run and wanted to be done with this quickly.

I think restricting Psychic Surge is the better option, is the kind of abilities that heavily reduces your options on the teambuilder while also causing some games to be win on preview, is very hard to have a consistent team right now as the format is quite polarized, as you often have to go for either a ho featuring psychic/electric surge or stall, I think a lot of changes are needed to solve this, we didn't have the time to fully adapt the banlist to restrictions, and now we have to also make all the dlc stuff work too, a lot of what was fine before is not anymore.
Either way, making things work with Psychic Surge staying is also an option, it will just cause a different chain reaction on what should be look at later, like the hyper fast mons like Mewtwo and Spectrier that are quite hard to take on for offensive teams while under Psychic Terrain, at least without some surprise teras or terrain wars that often end on how can sack mons better.

 

[RoFnA]

used the same stall team as the other fellow people here. With some small adjustments because Quagsire doesnt need Curse in my opinion and Spikes are generally better. Also Tera Steel on Wo-Chien so Technician Icicle Spear/Rock Blast teams don't break through as easily.
Psychic Terrain wasnt a problem tbh. I think the meta is a little bit too overcentralizing towards stall. It beats like 90% of teams here. You need a specific stallbreker Team with either Technician + Hustle Calyrex or something similar. But then you have worse matchup vs fast special teams.
voting do not ban

Team used:

As you can see in the replays stall beats almost every team except these specific stallbreaker teams:
vs. Rain Dry Skin Manaphy Team: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030681790-m8m7y386gv8nc1b5vz1c4ucqlaf8z9gpw
vs Flare Boost Special Team + Triage: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030679489-8my2oe9wim5wu3h2hisph69hwp1m98kpw
vs Electric Terrain Quark Drive: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030712386-8m4f187wr8ytvt9ne7gegbav49vqevypw
vs.Sheer Force Special Attackers https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030717634-0bvdlflfriye4wwohr1y810h7hq5i37pw
the one loss vs Stallbreaker Technician Hustle Calyrex Ice https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030724789-4smjfflxhpx88p19egfhwztl99bx292pw
second loss vs Technician Hustle Rillaboom https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030741048-vuakmxk6j437qj3h8k1mb4dprrm8qykpw
final game vs. Hustle + long Reach https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9sharedpower-2030745974-p23iubma6v47xytokoy5f2cd7ggv4wypw

 

[smoolic]

used stall so no hard opinions either way, will wait to see what other things, currently im leaning toward not restricting it.

 

[KaenSoul]

We will be running 4 suspect tours, where the winner and runner-up will qualify for reqs. These tours will be at 2 PM and 5 PM GMT-3 on The 12th and 13th of this week. I will ping the SP role in the OM discord when these tours are started. Good luck everyone!
The tours will be in the OM Room.

 

[NoobHereWaddup]

i did not use stall (most of the time), big mistake

 

[KaenSoul]

(there were like 9 people in the tour, i just forgot to take a big screenshot the first time)
Sheeplol (runner-up) and BijouMode (winner) won the first suspect tour.

 

[KaenSoul]

ghostlike (runner-up) and Ex Snagem Wes (winner) won the second suspect tour.

 

[KaenSoul]

Mincera31 (winner) and cat (runner-up) won the third suspect tour.

 

[EyeWasBored]

I used this technician spam team to meet the requirements
https://pokepast.es/5c5591753ffafb21

I personally had no issues with psychic surge teams using my team, beacause liligant usually sweeps like 4 team members and the rest can clean up from there

I would probably need to see a few more different perspectives vs psychic surge to make a more conclusive decision but as of now I feel it is relatively balanced.

(also sorry if I did anything wrong this is my first smogon post and first suspect test)
P.S how do we actually vote when the time comes

 

[KaenSoul]

I am BONK (winner) and Ziek_Freek (runner-up) won the final suspect tour.

 

[Shay's Fate]

 

[Isaiah]

Voting: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-shared-power-suspect-2-psychic-surge.3734691/

 

[KaenSoul]

Total eligible voters: 16
Current votes: 14

Psychic Surge
Restrict: 7
Do Not Restrict: 7
Do Not Restrict % = 43.75%

60% pro-ban majority is required for a ban, and that percentage has not been reached with the existing votes. Thus, Psychic Surge will remain unrestricted in Shared Power!